1/25/23, The Indicator (9:05)
Link:https://www.npr.org/2023/01/25/1151551484/want-a-balanced-federal-budget-itll-cost-you

Summary: As policy makers grapple with the debt ceiling, the podcast digs into the notion of a balanced budget. While tying the debt ceiling limit to a balanced is an appealing to some fiscal conservatives, in reality “extreme” fiscal responsibility is likely impractical, and getting to balanced budget will require deeper structural changes to the government budget.
Also: The episode “What is the Deal with the Platinum Coin” from 1/26/23 looks into an interesting solution to circumvent the debt ceiling kerfuffle #minthecoin